Interview by James Amadori Libero
The name of the Democratic Party Senator Hugh Sposetti, 68 anni, ex tesoriere dei Ds, He is quoted in the papers of the investigation into Major works by the prosecution to Florence and Carabinieri of the ROS for a payment that the suspect Giulio Burchi, former President of Italferr (Group company Ferrovie dello Stato) He would have made a current account. "It must have been a transfer to election campaigns or the foundation of the Democratic Party and their political and cultural initiatives" trying to reconstruct Free.
The payment so it was not for her?
"To me what I need money Burchi? This thing is a total nonsense. Politicians are all tracked. Forget it".
For who was that payment of October 2013?
"Honey I'm not a jukebox ... I have always collected donations to foundations, that money go there. Always carry the baggage tags with iban and social security number of foundations to support ".
Even today with the merchandise itself?
"(it turns on) I've got everything. If the meeting at least 100 EUR them must send ".
A chi?
"The association Enrico Berlinguer. Or the foundation Cespe dating back to the 70's and it was the Communist Party. And then I have the electronic stickers 5 per thousand of the founding Gramsci. For years I collect resources for these charitable institutions ".
The foundations are not always beneficial ...
"There is everything. It is physiological in a country like ours. But if you are connecting on the website of Enrico Berlinguer or Night Red sees how many initiatives do these foundations, born after the formation of the Democratic Party ".
Burchi payments made them in his own name or in the name of Italferr?
"I do not know this. I hope I have made in his name. If then Burchi has its company staff, being a professional, He could make donations with that, respecting the rules ".
In the survey of Florence she is also cited for some recommendations. For example, he has pledged to find jobs to former parliamentary Massimo Marchignoli.
"So? He had been unemployed. If she needed, I would help too ... ".
In interceptions he complains because he has to deal only to find jobs ...
"Unfortunately, that's the way it is".
He got tired of doing it?
«No, I annoys. Doing political activity 45 anni, I met so many people in the party and those who remained out of work say: if it helps us feel Sposetti. So? I did sin?»
When she says that she has replaced the old Communist Party what he means?
"What I have to take care of all the staff that remained. I had to put in layoffs ".
But she is especially worried by a former deputy with lifetime ...
"You see that shit says. Marchignoli is no income because they do not have the age for retirement. A lui, among other, I could not even find a place ".
Maybe because she was looking for a post of prestige, dentro a un cda…
"In his life Marchignoli did the president of the municipal. Unfortunately now to find a place not just professionalism, but need a degree. Yet I have never taken an exam at the university but I am not ashamed of this and I think I know how to do my job '.
And only now it does the employment office?
«No. I also do other things. For example Burchi also wondering money and not that it was very magnanimous man '.
He asked money for election campaigns?
"When I was a candidate I looked for my money".
And what he has given?
«Non so, maybe nothing. From what I remember the man has the stingy ".
In addition to those who know Burchi Italferr? That company seems a fort of the former Ds.
"I have not known Burchi Italferr. It does not matter. He was also with Gabriele Albertini ATM Milan ».
How did you meet?
"That was fifteen years ago, was a professional registered with the DS in Modena. Only recently it has intensified attendance. Often when I was in Rome and had an hour free to call me for a coffee. It is one that talks a lot, as you can imagine from eavesdropping ".
In the investigation of Florence there are several suspects in his party. The regional councilor of Emilia Vladimiro Fiammenghi knows?
"Yup, but I did not understand what would have combined ".
Together with the former commissioner Alfredo Peri is accused of corruption for having promised the engineer Stefano Perotti (one of those arrested ed) to let him direct the work Autostrada Cispadana.
"But then they did the director?».
Actually Cispadana has yet to start.
"(Ride) So where is corruption? (Keeps laughing)».
He knows the former president of Italferr Maria Lorenzetti?
"Yes, and I think it's clean".
He has already been sentenced for health Umbrian, when he was president of the Region, and a trial for the Florentine Table.
"For one who has ruled for so many years, There is also a conviction. Of First Instance then ... ".
The investigation is under investigation include former Secretary DS Antonio Bargone.
"Another great professional. I've known him for years ".
It does not seem very convinced of the soundness of this investigation.
"If you tell me that Fiammenghi and Peri are being investigated for a promise, maybe a braggadocio, I wonder: where is corruption? I think that this story has not turned a € ".
There are payouts Burchi her ...
"(Ride) So the corrupt am?»
For investigators are some of his companions.
"I'm not a pm, m to a guarantor. Always ".
No sins to confess? Remorse?
"Maybe I should retire and instead continue to work".
When he entered Parliament?
"For the first time in 1987. They are to be scrapped '.
This is the mantra of Matthew Renzi. What do you think of the Prime Minister?
"We are both fans of Fiorentina».
Will not it become fer?
"If you want it the Ripete".